October 12, 2023

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5.45pm

That’s a wrap for today

By Roy Ward

Some days you have a stack of deals, other days just a lot of talk.

Today was the latter with no official deals announced.

There are a number of players and mooted moves that remain up in the air heading into the weekend and the final days next week.

Thanks once more for joining us and for your comments, please join us again at 9am tomorrow for our day five live blog.

Bye for now.

4.29pm

Why Carlton was content to give up pick 17 in the Fisher trade

By Peter Ryan

Some Carlton supporters have been wondering why Carlton were happy to give up pick 17 as part of the Zac Fisher deal to get North Melbourne’s picks 21 and 25 in return.

Both clubs entered the deal valuing Fisher around pick 30, but the Kangaroos did not have that pick as they held pick 21 (too high) and pick 44 (too low).

Zac Fisher (number 25) is now a Roo.Credit: Getty Images

Once Dylan Stephens went to North, they had picks 21 and 25 as part of their deal with the Swans.

Carlton knew they were likely to get the player they are keen on at either pick 17 or pick 21 (which is still in the first round) in the national draft.

They also know pick 21 can be highly rated as the first pick of the second night of the national draft.

The Blues also have the potential twin father-son Camporeale brothers available in next year’s draft and may need to strike a deal to get Elijah Hollands from Gold Coast while, for North Melbourne, pick 17 gave them five picks inside pick 18, a huge haul as they look to get pick No.1.

In the end, the deal using academy points as a guide valued Fisher as worth about pick 30.

4.08pm

‘Medical episode’: Oliver taken to hospital by ambulance before being discharged

By Sam McClure and Peter Ryan

Melbourne star Clayton Oliver was transported to Footscray Hospital by ambulance following a medical episode but has since been discharged.

The club confirmed in a statement that the hospital completed a number of tests before Oliver returned home, but the Demons gave few details.

A Western Health spokesman had earlier confirmed that a 26-year-old man was admitted to Footscray’s emergency department and was no longer in hospital.

Clayton Oliver with teammate Jake Lever.Credit: Getty Images

“The Melbourne Football Club can confirm that Clayton Oliver was admitted to hospital,” the Demons’ statement on Thursday afternoon said.

“Clayton was transported to hospital via ambulance, following a medical episode. The hospital completed a number of tests and Clayton has since been discharged from hospital and is recovering at home. The club will continue to work with Clayton and his medical support team to ensure he receives all the necessary treatment.

“We ask that media respect Clayton’s privacy at this time.”

Click here to read the story.

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3.36pm

Contract expected but not yet filed for Gresham

By Peter Ryan

Essendon are still expected to lodge a contract for St Kilda restricted free agent Jade Gresham, according to two sources, but no official contract has yet been filed with the AFL.

St Kilda have said they will match the offer to force a trade unless the deal delivers compensation at the end of the first round to the Saints.

Jade Gresham is a restricted free agent.Credit: Getty Images

3.23pm

Ratten ready to make a difference for Hawks

Brett Ratten still loves coaching and won’t be sitting back as he joins Sam Mitchell’s staff at Hawthorn.

Ratten will take on the role of head of coaching performance and development after being Alastair Clarkson’s senior assistant coach last season at North Melbourne, in which he took the helm at the Roos for several games while Clarkson took personal leave.

Ratten was part of the Hawthorn coaching staff between 2013 and 2015 during Clarkson’s celebrated tenure.

The former Carlton and St Kilda senior coach is ready to hit the ground running and work with developing both the Hawks’ rising stars and their coaches.

“I still love coaching, and I have a lot to offer in that space,” he said.

“I don’t just want to be sitting back, I want to get my hands dirty, get out there and work with the players and see if we can develop and fast-track some of them.”

2.55pm

Best-and-fairest recaps: Hawks, Demons and Roos

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2.39pm

Swans hope Pyke can stay

By Roy Ward

Sydney chief executive Tom Harley wants senior assistant coach Don Pyke to stay with the Swans but won’t stand in his way should he put his hand up for the vacant chief executive role at West Coast.

Pyke was a two-time premiership player with the Eagles in the 1990s before becoming a senior coach with Adelaide and, more recently, a highly valued assistant coach for Swans mentor John Longmire.

Swans senior assistant coach Don Pyke.Credit: Getty Images

Pyke is reportedly among the candidates to replace Trevor Nisbett, the long-time boss of the Eagles.

“We love Pykey and we are really hopeful and planning for him to be part of our footy club whilst acknowledging that without going into specifics, there’s a vacant role over at the West Coast Eagles,” Harley told SEN on Thursday.

“You’d have to say it is not a traditional path to that sort of role but he’s a really special talent and we’ve got plans for him over here as well.

“We’ll work with Don really respectfully through that and time will tell. But things are a bit out of our control but if I could wave a magic wand, he’d be staying with us at the Swans and contributing to our programs.”

2.25pm

Best-and-fairest recaps: Power, Tigers and Saints

2.11pm

Melbourne champion Clayton Oliver admitted and discharged from hospital

By Sam McClure

Melbourne star Clayton Oliver attended Footscray Hospital in recent days but has since been discharged.

A Western Health spokesman has confirmed that a 26-year-old man was admitted to Footscray’s emergency department and was no longer in hospital.

Clayton Oliver with teammate Jake Lever.Credit: Getty Images

Melbourne are expected to make a statement on Thursday about the matter. A club source confirmed the midfielder’s hospital visit. This masthead has also contacted Oliver’s manager Nick Gieschen for comment.

Click here to read the story.

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2.03pm

Jed who? Why you haven’t heard of this young gun

By Marnie Vinall

He’s a hulking teenage key forward from Australia’s croc country, tipped to be the next Charlie Curnow and considered a possible rival to Harley Reid as this year’s No.1 draft pick, but one club has had him sewn up for years.

Meet Jed Walter, the top-end talent from the Top End, who’ll almost certainly land at Gold Coast next month as an academy selection.

Read the full story here.

The Gold Coast Suns are expected to draft Northern Territory youngster Jed Walter (right) who has been likened to Carlton’s goal-kicker Charlie Curnow.Credit: Getty

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